Ich will es mal so versuchen, den Unterschied zu erklären: RB = RegionalBahn = Nahverkehrszug / Regionalzug RE = RegionalExpress = Eilzug Die Deutsche Bundesbahn hat in den 70er und … Munich S-Bahn (bahasa Jerman: S-Bahn München) adalah sistem jaringan angkutan cepat kereta listrik yang terdapat di Munich, Jerman. You don’t have to feed your ticket into a machine in order to get to your train.You thus may be tempted to skip buying a ticket, but Germany’s “honor system” for public transport operates on the “trust but verify” principle. In Bremen hat man das selbe gemacht, dort heißt das allerdings "Regio-S-Bahn" (in meinen Augen ein guter Begriff um die eigentliche S-Bahn nicht zu sehr zu verwässern). Meine Erfahrung mit allem was ich über solche Untersuchungen gelesen und gehört habe, ist der Bodenpreis aber so vielen Faktoren unterlegen und durch die geringe Anzahl verkaufter, gleichwertiger Grundstücke so fragil, dass man solche Rückschlüsse verlässlich nicht erzielen kann. Bei der derzeitigen Situation (eine Stammstrecke) wird es wohl eher auf eine Flügelung der S2 in Dachau hinauslaufen. Gesundbrunnen-Hbf isn’t really a reliable transit trip for the reason you mention, and Berlin’s attempt to fix that with S21 is running into all the usual problems of German infrastructure, including delays and a questionable service plan (there’s an east-west capacity crunch, not a north-south one). Does the line connect to important outlying destinations for which high speed would be especially beneficial. On the one hand Berlin S-Bahn didn’t and it would limit capacity for no appreciable gain to install them, on the other hand some S-Bahn systems are hundreds of kilometers long. Swap one of the southern LIRR branches for the Port Washington line, the southern one gets Wall Street or Penn Station instead, the Port Washington can have every ten minutes to Wall Street, a good thing because all the people in northeastern Queens who are schleping on the Flushing line and clogging Grand Central or Times Square so they can go downtown won’t. But I don’t know to what extent this impacts Hamburg-Hanover specifically. Man ist aber bestrebt, sie zu elektrifizieren und in das "richtige" S-Bahnnetz einzugliedern. In Paris, the distinction between Transilien and the RER is about whether there is through-running, and thus some lines that are RegionalBahn-like are branded as RER, for example the entire RER C. Moreover, with future extension plans, the RER brand will eventually take over increasingly long-distance regional service, for example going east to Meaux. Because you can’t mention S-Bahnen and American rail activists without summoning the spectre of Philadelphia…. All structured data from the file and property namespaces is available under the Creative Commons CC0 License; all unstructured text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License; additional terms may apply. – commuter (even sometimes stopping): S (with some R leftovers). DB / ODEG / NEB. A lot of REs are being upgraded to IRs as the already were ordered by the federal government, and many R/RE are folding into S-Bahn networks with line numbers. JR East and the Ueno-Tokyo Line is just keeping up with the Kardashians here (plus most JR East commuter vehicles have a wider loading gauge and no end doors so they’re not permitted on the subway network anyway). If passengers can choose any of those trains operating on the same rail corridor only depending on the travel purpose and distance traveling but without getting forced to pay completely different fare, actual frequency of the service could be potentially increased (without running too many trains) compared to doing without service or fare integration. The Munich S-Bahn (German: S-Bahn München) is an electric rail transit system in Munich, Germany. Niemand fährt nun S-Bahn weil er schon immer mal mit Gleichstrom fahren wollte. It’s interesting you don’t mention what I’ve thought of as the one RER/S-Bahn like train in the US: BART. The situation of Boston is instructive even in other cities, even outside the United States, purely because its commuter rail service is so bad that it can almost be viewed as blank slate service on existing infrastructure. The NRW-Tarif always applies "door-to-door" and includes the use of all buses, trams, light rail and underground as well as S-Bahn, RegionalBahn and RegionalExpress. Köln-Porz befahren S 12 (bzw. Was in Berlin Krise war (20 Minuten Takt) ist woanders ja noch nicht einmal HVZ ;), 218 466-1, Red Bank NJ / ex-Ingolstadt, Freitag, 22.07.2011, 01:31 (vor 3544 Tagen) @ Jogi, Ja, ab Dezember 2018 hat es sich zwischen Freiburg und Breisach sowie zwischen Neustadt (Schw.) - S-Bahn in den meisten Fällen andere Spurweiten (Ausnahmen, die mir spontan einfallen, sind Rostock, Leipzig und Dresden), Es gibt in Deutschland keine S-Bahn, die nicht auf 1435mm fährt ;-), - Andere Energieversorgung der S-Bahn z.B. Union Station consists of 2 terminals: one for trains going north, the other for trains going south, so through running would need a lot of new infrastructure. Aber in Hamburg beispielsweise fahren mittlerweile auch schon die S-Bahnen unter Wechselstrom nach Stade, weil es eben billiger ist, Zweisystemfahrzeuge zu bauen und zu warten, als eine komplett neue Strecke zu bauen bzw. Allerdings gibt es mittlerweile wie bei der Straßenbahn auch Überland-S-Bahnzweige. DB Regio bietet im SPNV drei Produktkategorien für unterschiedliche Zwecke an: die S-Bahn, die Regionalbahn und den Regional-Express. >In Japan, too, the first priority for through-running is the most local S-Bahn-like lines – when there were only six tracks between Tokyo and Ueno, the Yamanote and Keihin-Tohoku Lines ran through, as did the Shinkansen, whereas the longer-range regional lines terminated at the two ends until the recent through-line opened. Die Ortenau- sowie Breisgau-S-Bahn um Offenburg und Freiburg verwenden nicht das Logo, sondern nur den Namen "S-Bahn". And the creaky commuter trains only hit 105 or so on the local tracks. The Swiss trains won’t be able to do toilet dumping on the French terminus station (Annemasse). The bus is still going to go to Flushing. California could have bought the entire Southern Pacific for like $2 billion around 1990. bearbeitet von RhBDirk, Donnerstag, 21.07.2011, 22:05, http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regionalbahn Easiest to deal with the clearances on the 63rd St. I guess there is one other potential issue for overlap between regional and RER like trains, and that is if the regional trains should stop at major (though not all) RER-like stations. Die S-Bahn (S) setzt DB Regio vor allem im Stadtverkehr von Ballungsräumen ein. | Pedestrian Observations, Pulses (Hoisted from Comments) | Pedestrian Observations, New York Regional Rail (not S-Bahn) | Pedestrian Observations, High-Speed Rail and the Pacific Northwest, Burning the Midnight Oil for Energy Independence, Pittsburgh, Youngstown, Akron, Cleveland Arts And Livable City Blog, Jim Aloisi, Trimount Consulting and Board Member at TransitMatters. Früher auch mal auf der Linie nach Duisburg-Meiderich (U79), aber seit die Linie von der DVG betrieben wird You can slot TGVs into a takt with ICE and that’s fine – the TGVs are quite punctual when they stay on the LGVs, which the trains to both Strasbourg and Brussels do. Finally IC/ICN/EC are expresses, stopping only at major centers. That’s why in recent years the private lines have gone to great lengths to bring some express trains onto the subway (see Odakyu’s 4 tracking program, the F-Liner service on the Fukutoshin Line). In New York, the situation is the most complicated, befitting the city’s large size and constrained location. Yeah but it would have made reappropriating very lightly used tracks in the east bay or on the Peninsula much easier. Eine S-Bahn, als Kurzform für Stadtbahn, Schnellbahn oder Stadtschnellbahn, ist eine in Deutschland, Österreich und der Schweiz übliche Bezeichnung für eine meist elektrisch betriebene Eisenbahn, die dem Schienenpersonennahverkehr respektive Regionalverkehr in Agglomerationen und deren Umland dient. Mit der S-Bahn Rhein-Neckar zwischen Kaiserslautern, Osterburken und Karlsruhe hat man sich in gewissem Sinne von der Ausrichtung auf ein Zentrum verabschiedet, sondern bestehende RB-Verbindungen mit neuen Fahrzeugen zr S-Bahn aufgewertet. Oder ist mit "Energieversorgung" was anderes gemeint? Views 88 Filename Kopie von 00012534.jpg Upload Date Aug 16th 2020 Dimensions 1,728 × 1,080 File Size 420.26 kB FWIW, Switzerland lets you do that between Zurich Hbf and the airport if you have a city-airport ticket and it’s fine, the dwell times don’t suffer for it and a normal city ticket doesn’t give you a seat reservation if no seats are available. I forgot to mention that there’s also a flat junction at where the Shonan Shinjuku and Yokosuka lines split near Osaki station, that causes plenty of headaches and AFAIK there’s no plan for now to grade separate it. RhBDirk, Donnerstag, 21.07.2011, 22:02 (vor 3544 Tagen) @ vincent Their non-rail businesses (vertical shopping malls and department stores) generates significant amount of revenue (though the fare revenue generates profit by itself). Click on a date/time to view the file as it appeared at that time. Yeah, so Berlin’s S-Bahn incompatibility with mainline electrification is definitely a distinguishing feature, as is Hamburg’s, and as is the Watford DC Line. Außerdem handelt es sich um einen Rechtsbegriff, der im Allgemeinen Eisenbahngesetz definiert ist. Mal sehen, wie's im Winter wird. >I don’t think through-running intercity trains in Chicago is a priority. Dann ist noch zu erwähnen, dass RB innerhlab eines S-Bahnnetzes nur an den größten Bahnhöfen halten. Hallo, Minuten verspäteter RE einer S-Bahn hinterher und macht +20, obwohl es die S-Bahn nur zwei Minuten kosten würde, wenn man den RE weit draußen überholen lässt, von privaten Regionalzügen brauchen wir garnicht erst reden. Thus JR East outer suburban rolling stock typically are fitted with them. In Japan, too, the first priority for through-running is the most local S-Bahn-like lines – when there were only six tracks between Tokyo and Ueno, the Yamanote and Keihin-Tohoku Lines ran through, as did the Shinkansen, whereas the longer-range regional lines terminated at the two ends until the recent through-line opened. >These mostly aren’t luxuries that private railways have – not even Odakyu with their 4 track section. Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Taktfahrplan, Ausirchtung auf ein Zentrum - aber eben langsam und gerne mal im Stundentakt. Also there is no attempt at creating regular headways on the trunks of Regionalbahn lines, which is actually an impediment for some journeys. Yeah, there’s one sense in which this distinction gets weird in very large cities: the branch points are really far out, like Hicksville or Tachikawa, so you can have a long trunk like an S-Bahn but then the branching and overall range of a RegionalBahn. What is your threshold for calling a city large? I stand corrected – Seibu does run a 4tph all-local service from Ikebukuro to Toshimaen (on a branch line one stop from Nerima where the subway merges with the Seibu line), but that’s not really useful, is it, given that a lot more capacity comes from the subway than is freed up by trains taking the Toshimaen branch? Whyyyyyyy is the frequency on the Yokosuka Line so low? MET - Der beste Zug den es je gab, vincent, Freitag, 22.07.2011, 11:21 (vor 3543 Tagen) @ Jogi, Danke für deine super aüsführliche und verständlich erklärte Anleitung. eine bestehende Strecke mit einem zusätzlichen Gleis und/oder Stromschiene auszurüsten. 9 definiert als Eisenbahnverkehrsunternehmen, die ausschließlich Verkehrsleistungen auf Netzen des Regionalverkehrs erbringen, auch soweit sie über diese Netze hinaus bis in den Übergangsbahnhof außerhalb des jeweiligen Netzes des Regionalverkehrs verkehre… Und dann noch Gleichstrom, was ja eigentlich keiner will. Train crews bring their bladders, bowels and stomach along with them to work. durch eine Stromschiene Increasing 15-car operations in the JR East’s mainline services beyond what is currently offered is also difficult because the demand drops noticeably once trains pass Tokyo CBD, but the first location where they can drop 4 cars are far out of the Tokyo CBD (Kagohara, Koganei, Zushi, etc.). Regional day ticket for North Rhine-Westphalia: All local and regional buses and trains in North Rhine-Westphalia. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-Bahn. I think the better solution is to have even headways on the trunks of the Regionalbahn, so you could at least know that there’s a train coming every 10 minutes on that part of the line that you can board for your short hop. Welcher Ortenauer, der schon mal in Berlin oder Hamburg unterwegs war, fällt drauf rein? Kai_ME, Null-zwo-elf, Freitag, 22.07.2011, 09:01 (vor 3543 Tagen) @ NIM rocks. What kind of dytopian future does one branch of the Morris and Essex lines need four tracks? Accordingly, acceleration and dwell times are of lesser concern which is reflected in the rolling stock used. The danger would be blowing out the dwell times in Berlin if loads of passengers for intra-city trips decide to board. But Marin pulled out years before they ever laid any track. *Neustadt-Donaueschingen wird aktuell mit IRE n. Ulm und RE n. Rottweil mit VT 611 und 218+ n-Wagen (ein Umlauf Sa+S) bedient. Billiger. Daher ist mir der Unterschied auch nicht so ganz klar (= auch RB 25 wird unter der Marke „S-Bahn Köln“ vermarktet). Während es in Berlin und Hamburg weitgehend eigenständige S-Bahn-Netze gibt, die überwiegend dem innerstädtischen Verkehr dienen, gibt es bei einigen anderen S-Bahn-Netzen kaum Unterschiede zur Regionalbahn. Aber dann möchte ich doch das Prädikat "klassisch" bitte den beiden von mir oben als "echte S-Bahn" eingeordneten Systemen vorbehalten wissen. Discover Germanys most beautiful regions on our trains. That has been grade separated for a long time too. Even Toei Subway and Metropolitan Government of Tokyo used special purpose company (Tokyo Metropolitan Subway Construction Co.,Ltd) to build the Oedo Line, and Toei Subway purchased rolling stock and infrastructure using very long-range “installment loan”. This is true now, but presumably in the 1960s when railroads were at their weakest, BART could’ve just bought the freight railroads outright and saved a lot of money not reinventing the wheel. I know that RER E’s future service plan will have eastbound trains terminating at Rosa Parks and westbound trains terminating at Nanterre-La Folie, so in that case trains don’t really enter the suburbs on the other side. bearbeitet von vincent, Donnerstag, 21.07.2011, 21:54. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Und natürlich spielen die anderen Faktoren wie Entfernung zur Großstadt usw. If you have a valid ticket, you can take any train between Genève Aéroport and Genève Cornavin. It’s not the same as the RER A and B or most of the Berlin S-Bahn, with their 10- and 15-minute branch frequencies and focus on the city and innermost suburbs. Also, if one can bunch up and interline all rail traffic on one corridor and make all trains run on a double-track rail line, both passenger volume and train traffic density would stay high, it would increases not only utilization of the track capacity and infrastructure significantly but also the potential of the rail line. schon an den Immobilienpreisen: ist ein S-Bahnhof in der Nähe, wird's merklich teurer. 840 000 utast szállítva el. Vieles von dem, was sich heute S-Bahn nennt, sind einfach umbenannte Nahverkehrsverbindungen, die auch in der letzten Zeit schon vertaktet waren und unter den verschiedensten Bezeichnungen liefen, exemplarisch in Bremen: als CityBahn und als StadtExpress. I don’t see anything in New Jersey that gets Wall Street. Der Verlauf dieser Linie entspricht –von den zusätzlichen HPn abgesehen – eigentlich dem des RSX (RE 9/NRW), allerdings an beiden „Enden gekürzt“: In Au (Sieg) wird der RSX auf dem verbleibenden Weg nach Siegen durch die RB 95“(1) [= Au (Sieg) <=> Dillenburg] „begleitet“. Da ich sehe, dass das Reizwort hier aus dem Kontext gerissen ist: einigen der Überlegungen ums Reizwort drum rum kann ich trotzdem durchaus zustimmen. Bahnhof Potsdamer Platz von Regionalbahn und S-Bahn Berlin. No matter who is trying to build, subway construction is getting more and more difficult. It’s useful to distinguish the two whenever a city wishes to invest in its regional rail network, because the key infrastructure for the two patterns is different. In London, two of the three busiest Underground segments in the morning are Waterloo -> Bank and Victoria -> Green Park, both taking passengers from a giant rail terminal to city center (the third is Bethnal Green -> Liverpool Street). JR East’s example also shows that the service and fare integration done right can help establishing the web of passenger rail service connecting multiple regions. So do passengers. That being said, (some of) the California authorities are now making the right sounds, planning for double-tracking, separation from freight, through-running, all-day service (even if it is meh at about half-hourly); California is not ossifying the way New York’s railroads have. Die Gemeinde Blankenfelde-Mahlow liegt am Verlauf der Bahnstrecke Berlin-Dresden. ( Log Out /  This page was last edited on 2 March 2015, at 08:44. Adding on-board bathroom requires more than adding bathrooms on trains. In practice, if they share infrastructure integration is straightforward but pricing/organization often differs a lot discouraging these issues. S-Bahn is within a Verkehrsverbund, and following its rules. Anyway, your point stands that Rhine-Main is a multicentered metropolitan region with a total population of 5.8 million. Zudem bezeichnet der Begriff in Deutschland, Österreich und der Schweiz eine Zuggattung des Schienenpersonennahverkehrs respektive Regionalverkehrs. Instead send East Side Access trains to Secaucus, change trains for Grand Central. So it really is converging to: – fast long distance: IC with EC/ICE/TGV/RJ filling in for transborder service As you mentioned, there is no distinctions between shorter and longer-distance service in Kanto area, but the network extends further than the end of the Kanto Area. Change ). S1 S Wannsee S Oranienburg. RB (RegionalBahn) is any other local. fjk, Freitag, 22.07.2011, 09:16 (vor 3543 Tagen) @ NIM rocks. Berlin’s S-Bahn often runs along mainline alignments, but it has exclusive tracks. Az S-Bahn München egy S-Bahn hálózat Münchenben.A hálózat 8 vonalból áll, teljes hossza 434 km, melyen 150 állomás található. Awful. The American rail activist term regional rail refers to any mainline rail service short of intercity, which lumps two distinct service patterns. Line 3: Empire to West Hempstead Line 1: New Jersey to Penn to Port Washington/Penn Station Access In Tokyo even this distinction is blurred, as most subway lines connect to commuter rail lines at their ends, often branching out. Tunnel that way. Dieses System gibt's nur in Berlin. With electricity since the 30s. And still an awful lot of trains going out 50-100 km. Many passengers take the S2 which also stops only once on the way (Oerlikon) which makes any insights hard to transfer to other cities. geschichtlich bedingt überall eigene Gleiskörper zur Verfügung hat. However, if the suburban service has low frequencies, say less than 4 tph, lavatories should be provided. -- Rostock: S-Bahn und Regionalbahn Bruxelles: RER Vienna: S-Bahn Vienna: rail node Cagliari: regional railways Lisboa: Linha de Cintura Wellington: Tranz Metro Yangon: suburban railways See also . The NRW-Tarif is the local public transport fare for NRW-wide journeys across the network area borders. The difference between an S-Bahn and a subway is merely that the subway is self-contained, whereas the S-Bahn connects to suburban branches. There is a short, busy stretch from Hardbrücke via HB to Stadelhofen but it is used by only half the lines. The solution is to get people in Eastern Queens and Western Nassau off the subway. “Zurich maintains separate brands for the S-Bahn and longer-distance regional trains, but as in Paris, the distinction is largely about whether trains terminate on the surface or run through either of the tunnels underneath Hauptbahnhof.” Also: Nicht überall, wo S-Bahn draufsteht, ist auch S-Bahn drin. Would you have S-Bahn style trains in New York continue to another suburb? Zähl noch die "Ortenau-S-Bahn" dazu, die mit RegioSchüttlern munter durch Baden scheppert ;), NIM rocks, Freitag, 22.07.2011, 00:04 (vor 3544 Tagen) @ Jogi. Generell verfügen S-Bahnen über spezielle Triebfahrzeuge mit hoher Beschleunigung und vielen Türen für schnellen Fahrgastwechsel um kurze Fahrzeiten zu bieten. Make it 21 an hour one is coming every three or slightly less. Auf der Strecke zwischen Düsseldorf und Krefeld (U76) wird teilweise noch mit Bistro grfahren. And there will be those pesky pesky Metro North and Amtrak trains too. S-Bahn. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. :), Thalyseo, Freitag, 22.07.2011, 14:46 (vor 3543 Tagen) @ Jogi, Hm, da müsste man doch glatt mal die Immobilienpreis in Herchen (= bedient durch NRW-S12) mit denen in Niederhövels (= bedient durch RB 95/NRW) vergleichen. An alle andren natürlich auch ein Danke. Bei allem unter 10 Minuten brauche ich kein Fahrplan und gehe einfach hin. But this is not a purely German situation. The single metro line is fully segregated, and there is some segregation between S-Bahn and longer-distance services, but this is far from complete. Balance this against the number of passengers that could be carried on those train paths on domestic routes into London, and well the money will never add up. DB ist die Marke, die über allem steht, ICE, IC, RB, und S-Bahn sind einzelne Produkte : InterCityExpress und Intercity gehören zum Fernverkehr, die ReionalBahn und die S-Bahn zum Regionalverkehr. If there is enough demand to need 4 four tracks between New Rochelle and Penn Station there’s no capacity between New Rochelle and New Haven for the trains to Grand Central. Die S-Bahn RheinRuhr spielt hier insoweit eine Sonderrolle, als dass sie mehrere Großstädte miteinander verbindet. In other cities, I might come to different conclusions – for example, I don’t think through-running intercity trains in Chicago is a priority. Unterschied Regionalbahn und S-Bahn Jogi, Donnerstag, 21.07.2011, 23:58 (vor 3514 Tagen) @ NIM rocks - Andere Energieversorgung der S-Bahn z.B. S-Bahn Hamburg GmbH (in German), part of Deutsche Bahn group, operating the Hamburg S-Bahn; DB Regio AG (Region Niedersachsen/Bremen), part of Deutsche Bahn group; DB Regionalbahn Schleswig-Holstein GmbH (RBSH) Eisenbahnen und Verkehrsbetriebe Elbe-Weser, operating rail and bus services In Berlin regional trains through-run from Magdeburg to Cottbus (schedule) and from Stralsund to Falkenberg/Elster (sche–dule). Hoffentlich bleibt das so (und die Chaosjahre in der jahrzehntelangen S-Bahn-Erfolgsgeschichte nur eine Fußnote). Accepted payment in detail: Coins: 5, 10, 20 and 50 cents; 1 and 2 euros All of it moderately cheap to build because it doesn’t require Son-Of-East-Side-Access under Madison Ave at Grand Central and the stuff in New Jersey is above ground. Frequent split/joint at Zushi sounds like very tricky due to the track layout. Danke für den Augenöffner! That’s the 13th largest city in the country with a population of more than half a million. To keep the arithmetic simple, 18 an hour is 12 an hour at Penn Station Newark and 6 an hour at Newark Broad Street. Diese sind die Grundversorgung des allgemeinen Überlandeisenbahnnetzes, da sie überall halten. The one direction in London where it might make sense is already routed around to the north-east of the city, into St. Pancras Intl. The Ex-SP line up the East Bay, given its freight traffic, couldn’t realistically support a much greater frequency of passenger trains than it currently does, even if it were electrified. Andererseits wird ja der RB 25 (NRW) auch als Regionalbahn behandelt, obwohl er die S-Bahn-Trasse befährt und auf dieser keine Halte auslässt. Or people who want Tremont on a train that is going to New Haven. Mit der Elektrifizierung der S-Bahnlinie A geht auch die Überlegung einher, weitere 423er anzuschaffen. (This project is now dead, but its vestigial funding is being used to support the proposed extension of the Norristown High Speed Line to King of Prussia) Almost as weird, or perhaps weirder, was the Cross County Metro, which would’ve run over a mix of trackage from Trenton to Downingtown, although I’m not sure if it would’ve used electrical multiple units or the same light rail vehicles as the Schuykill Valley Metro. noch Karlsruhe (eher Stadtbahn) sowie die "Breisgau-S-Bahn" (Diesel). The toilet dumping facilities can be a complicated problem, the new Geneva RER (CEVA) will cross the border between France and Switzerland and be served by two types of rolling stock: Stadler FLIRT for the Swiss (SBB/CFF/FFS) side and Alstom Régiolis from the French (SNCF) side. In branding, the JR East network is considered a single Kanto-area commuter rail network, without distinctions between shorter- and longer-range lines. etwas später auch die S13) die Regionalstrecke Richtung Troisdorf/Au (Sieg). Die DB beschreibt ihre Produkte bzw Zuggattungen in folgender Broschüre - pdf Datei. (The Trolleys connect to the RRD too in their subway via the concourses at 15th Street with the same once and perhaps future connection at 30th Street Station; there are also surface connections) The NHSL also connects to the RRD at Norristown, I call for complete through-running in New York, sometimes with the exception of East Side Access. In Paris I don’t know what’s the busiest segment, but the crunch from Gare du Nord south to Les Halles has to be either at the top or near it. Would opening ICEs to intra Berlin travel on intra Berlin tickets help? - RB über weitere Strecken, Mit dem Technischen bin ich nicht so vertraut, vielleicht kann mich da jemand korrigieren: "Zugnummer", "der Zug fährt ab", "die Züge der Berliner S-Bahn" Please note that the machines can only disperse a limited amount of change. in der Regel warten S-Bahnen nicht, um den Takt nicht zu gefährden... mit natürlich vielen Ausnahmen. It is typically based on the end-to-end distance (Kintetsu’s standard-gauge commuter rolling stock is a good example), but there is no set standard or commonality on on-board bathroom in Japanese regional trains because: - Dichterer Takt als die RB Meh. In London there’s so little through-running that it’s justifiable to prioritize the locals, but Tokyo, New York, and Paris should go for full through-running. http://www.bahn.de/p/view/mdb/bahnintern/broschueren/MDB91005-mobilitaetsbroschuere-110... 10 Minuten Takt als Standard für eine S-Bahn. Das größte Unterscheidungsmerkmale ist eigentlich, dass S-Bahnen nur bestimmten Strecken verkehren während die RB das Grundangebot ist, was überall sonst verkehrt. All of this is suggesting that Tokyo should try building more subway lines to connect the express trains and not just the locals. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. The way Kintetsu operates their passenger rail service could be one of the best example of “strail” of the world. Now, BART construction costs are obscene, no question there, but the reasons have less to do with its incompatible technology to mainline rail and more to do with incompetence and corruption. But you’re absolutely right about the issue of reliable frequency, and I wish I’d expressed this more clearly. Besides if Hs2 is ever built, the politics will shift to extending it further North to Newcastle and Scotland up the West Coast and then the long range studies calling for a new mainline to South West to relieve the SW and GreatWestern Mainlines. Speaking of on-board bathroom, there are some rural lines in JR West territory where there are scheduled “bathroom break” for passengers at some station stops built into the timetable. The most recent example I can think of was only local trains on the Tobu Tojo line going into the Tokyo Metro system before the launch of the F-Liner. Through-running would still generates revenue for the railways, but revenue from non-rail businesses could be affected significantly. Leipzig darunter verstehen, und (vielleicht) den Sonderfall Rhein/Ruhr. See also: File history. Nach Einführung der Metrobusse in einigen Städten sind diese wohl tatsächlich zu einem Kriterium bei der WOhnungsvermittlung geworden, auch in Fällen wo es nicht zu einer faktischen Angebotsverbesserung gekommen ist, deswegen kann ich mir das durchaus vorstellen. They make large investments to draw large volume of non-work passenger traffic from their service areas to their flagship downtown-side terminal stations while making their service area attractive (to increase the population within railway’s service area). The outer branches only run every 15-20 minutes, so as Nilo says it would definitely be possible to share those with other trains. > …suggesting that Tokyo should try building more subway lines to connect the express trains and not just the locals. Babylon, for example, will get at least 18 trains per hour at 50 km out. Später im Text werden bestimmte Stadtbahn-Linien sowie auch bestimmte S-Bahn Linien aufgeführt. Even if the individual branches run on a clockface schedule, people do not use the trunk as a scheduled railroad but rather show up and go continuously. schmidti91, Freitag, 22.07.2011, 00:38 (vor 3544 Tagen) @ NIM rocks, Jogi, Freitag, 22.07.2011, 00:28 (vor 3544 Tagen) @ vincent A regular train ticket does not come with a seat either. R/RB, in contrast, is prevalent in less densely populated regions with longer distances between towns. However Zug can also be used in the context of S-Bahn, U-Bahn, when referring to a specific train or to technical terms, e.g.